Whom would you most like to see appointed as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development?
This has never been the case in any society, throughout any point in human history, ever. The "free…
Since you've ignored my prior post of my thoughts as there is no way to dispute it, I will repost it for all to see how stupid you are:
Every Reason Socialism is Stupid
Socialism is one of the stupidest ideas a moron could hope to dream up. Literally nothing logical can be said in its defense. It has wiped entire civilizations off the earth, murdered tens of millions of people due to starvation, and mercilessly butchered more than a hundred million people in concentration camps because they dared to object to the tyranny of socialism. By contrast, the free market has brought tens of millions of beggars from rags to riches, fueled the creation of some of the most important inventions in human history, and has sky-rocketed the standards of living of billions worldwide to previously unimaginable heights. The obvious, unchanging pattern throughout history is that capitalism brings societies from rags to riches and socialism takes them from riches to rags – one hundred percent of the time. It’s happened over and over again, all over the world and in all time periods – China, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, the USSR, Venezuela, – the examples are infinite. When will we learn? When will we decide we’ve had enough? How many famines, depressions and droughts, how many gulags, work camps, and dictatorships, how many hundreds of millions of graves will it take to hammer into our thick skulls that socialism is stupid? We may never know.
Of course, the socialists can conveniently ignore this incriminating history by claiming that every time socialism was carried out it was done the wrong way. It’s the equivalent of shoving a fork into an electrical socket because you convinced yourself the thousands of people who got electrocuted doing the same thing simply did it wrong, but since you’re smart enough to do it right you can’t possibly get shocked. After all, it’s just a matter of putting the fork in at the right angle. Of course, no matter how you do it you’ll get elec… Read more
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
Granted, nearly all of this is just textbook Red Scare propaganda, that is so intentionally vague that I could copy+paste all of these arguments with "socialism" and "capitalism" swapped and it would be the exact same thing, to the point where I'm not convinced that you even know what socialism is (and given what I've read, I'd be very interested to hear you define it). However, I'll do my best to provide some clear counters to the few actual claims you made:
"Whereas capitalism, the system our founders intended for, supports equality of opportunity, socialists demand equality of outcome..."Read more
@TruthHurts10111mos11MO
Because workers are not forced to work they can freaking quit the job if they believe they are being exploited. With such stupid people as you, the drums of war are beating and let the war come, I repeat, let it come! Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be bought at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me Liberty or give me Death!
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
lol so are you literally arguing that "Liberty" means being legally denied ownership over the profits of your own labor? You genuinely mean to tell me that workers are NOT entitled to the fruits of their own labor? That's literally the opposite of freedom and liberty. You're seriously defending the right to steal the product of another man's hard work? What a fake Libertarian you are lol...
@TruthHurts10111mos11MO
What a TRUE libertarian I am. Workers do get the fruits of their labour, it's called a PAYCHECK, stupid. And do you think the business owners, who've worked their butts off to get where they are, should have the fruits of their labour taken by government coercion from THEM? What about THEM, stupid?
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
Wow so you DO think that workers' profits should be taken from them? And by people who didn't even have to work at all in the first place? And that the government should legally allow and defend this practice? Yea you for sure do not genuinely believe in freedom or liberty, especially not if you defend systems in which the profits of a man's labor should be legally and forcefully taken from him, by someone who didn't even produce them. That's just messed up, dude.
You'd rather defend the right of a mini dictator to steal the fruits of hard workers' labor than the rights of workers to own their own production. That's some pathetic boot-licker nonsense.
Tell me, do you think the relationship of dictatorships is bad? Why or why not?
@TruthHurts10111mos11MO
If everything you say is true then why has socialism always failed? Answer me that. Look at every socialist dictatorship and name one policy they promised that you disagree with. Name one.
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
Which nations are you referring to? Considering socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are socially-owned, can you...name one that instituted such a system? I am not aware of any such nations. I can think of plenty of nations that attempted to break free from global capitalism via transitional state-planning, but I don't know of any that actually implemented a socially-owned economy. Which nations do you know of that had socially-owned economies?
@TruthHurts10111mos11MO
This may help you -- USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Venezuela, Plymouth, Massachusetts in the 1620s, Jamestown, Nazi Germany, the list goes on
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
So you are genuinely trying to tell me that: "USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Venezuela, Plymouth, Massachusetts in the 1620s, Jamestown, Nazi Germany" had socially-owned economic systems..? Do you know what "socially-owned" means? It should be self-explanatory, but it means that society itself owns the economy. Are you under the impression that every North Korean citizen shares ownership of the North Korean economy? Every Russian citizen shared ownership of the USSR economy? Every German citizen shared ownership of the Nazi economy? I thought you claimed they were dictatorships, now you're telling me they were socially-owned..? Which is it?